I'm an Over 40s Makeup Artist - Here's My Easy 5-Minute Makeup Routine for Mature Skin

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Google 'makeup for mature skin' and you'll realise there isn't a heck of a lot of helpful information out there.

Where's the great makeup tutorial for over 40s? Where are the makeup for mature skin YouTube videos with tips and tricks for enhancing mature skin, not hiding it?

Oh, and if said tips could help us get out the door faster in the morning, that'd be great, too.

Thankfully, our resident over 40s makeup expert Amanda Ramsay has you covered.

Keep scrolling for a step-by-step breakdown of her mature skin makeup tutorial on how you can achieve a fresh, radiant look in under five minutes (with a little practice).

Step 1: Use a Longwear Eyeshadow.

Amanda says choosing a longwear eyeshadow cream that dries down and won't budge is basically "set and forget" eyeshadow.

Her favourite? M.A.C Cosmetics Pro Longwear Paint Pot in the shade Groundwork. The bronzey brown neutral is a product you'll find in most professional makeup artist's kits.

"The way I would do it is to stick your ring finger in there and start blending that over the eyelid. You can use a fluffy brush to soften the edges, but you need to work super fast before the shadow dries."

Eyeshadow, done.

Step 2: The Best Foundation for Mature Skin.

A luminous liquid foundation like Giorgio Armani Luminous Silk Foundation is "mature skin's best buddy".

Amada's advice?

"Start applying foundation in the centre of the face - the hormonal zone where we get flushes of redness, breakouts and where we need the most coverage - then work out so you're only putting coverage where you really need it."

Step 3: The 'Golden Triangle' of Concealer.

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Amanda uses a technique she calls the 'Golden Triangle of Amazingness' to brighten the under eye area, without product creasing into fine lines.

Take a radiant liquid concealer like Yves Saint Laurent Touche Éclat High Cover and start drawing your triangle in the inner corner of the eye, sweeping the product to your outer edge.

Then, bring it down diagonally to the edge of your nose and connect back up to your inner corner.

Blend with your ring finger, or a brush if you have more time.

Step 4: The Best Blush for Mature Skin.

Think of blush as an alarm clock for your face. It makes you look fresh, awake and healthy.

Amanda says she's used Benefit Benetint Cheek & Lip Stain for as long as it's been around. It's a liquid blush you can apply in a hurry that becomes a part of your skin.

Dot the stain over the upper apples of your cheeks (smile like you have a secret to find them) and upwards along the cheekbone. Start small and press into the skin to blend the product upwards. You can always add more as you go.

Bonus points: "While you're there, pop some on your lips for a lip stain."

Step 5: Mascara and Brows.

"Apply a really black mascara right at the roots of your lashes and wiggle upwards," Amanda says.

She used Yves Saint Laurent Mascara Volume Effet Faux Cils The Curler for this look.

For eyebrows, a tinted brow gel like Benefit Gimme Brow + Fibre Gel adds colour and volume. Always brush product upwards through your brows, but wipe the excess off the brush first to avoid "looking like Ming the Merciless".

Step 6: A Bright Lipstick.

Finally, whacking on a bright lipstick is the fastest way to look like you've made an effort.

Creamy formulas are more comfortable and forgiving to wear at any age. MAKE UP FOR EVER Rouge Artist Lipstick is our current favourite because it glides on and won't feel cakey or crusty.

And that's it, your easy everyday makeup routine for mature skin.

God bless you, Amanda.

For more of Amanda's expert over 40s makeup tips, listen to her interview on the Beauty IQ Uncensored podcast below.

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Want to learn more? Here's the transcript of our Beauty IQ Uncensored podcast episode on

    

    

We have a pretty frank discussion about our experiences with stretch marks. Plus! Amanda Ramsay joins us to talk all things makeup.

Beauty IQ Uncensored Episode 58 Transcript - 'Tips & Trends With An Over 40s Makeup Expert'

    

 

Hannah Furst:
Welcome everybody to Beauty IQ, the podcast.

Joanna Flemming:
I'm your host, Joanna Fleming.

Hannah Furst:
And I am your co-host, Hannah Furst.

Joanna Flemming:
We need to discuss Emily in Paris.

Hannah Furst:
I'm so glad that you watched it.

Joanna Flemming:
I know that you were on a date, but I was in my bed binge watching this series. Because I'd heard so many mixed reviews, I wasn't sure if I was going to watch it. And then I thought, (bleep) it, I'm just going to watch it. Everyone seems to be talking about it, I need to know what it's all about. And I just feel like we need to discuss some inconsistencies in the storyline. If you haven't watched Emily in Paris and you're planning to, just skip forward a little bit.

Joanna Flemming:
Firstly, you don't break up with your boyfriend and then he disappears. She heard nothing from him again. Where was that in the story line? Every time he's seen like a man's hand in your stories, he's sending you a DM. Like, come on.

Hannah Furst:
Yeah. The other inconsistency on Emily in Paris was she started with like 40 followers. Next minute she's got-

Joanna Flemming:
Got 20k.

Hannah Furst:
20,000 followers. How did she snowball from 40 followers to 20,000 in a few days in Paris?

Joanna Flemming:
I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the timeline was, but it just didn't seem super realistic. But I did actually really enjoy it and I got to the end of it and I was like, "When's Season Two, I need to know what's going on."

Hannah Furst:
Yeah. I think the best review that I've read, do you follow Every Outfit On Sex and the City?

Joanna Flemming:
Yes.

Hannah Furst:
@everyoutfitonsatc.

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah.

Hannah Furst:
So they've done, by popular demand and against our better judgement , we present our uncensored individual takes on Emily in Paris. And I just loved like ... So this girl, Chelsea, said, "Did I watch an entire season of Emily and Paris in less than 48 hours? Yes. Do I hate myself for doing that? Abso (beep) lutely." As Big would say. She says, "This show made me dumber, but it also allowed me to escape into a magical world where I didn't have to think about the coronavirus and the election 24/7."

Joanna Flemming:
I absolutely agree with that. I totally agree that it was like, I hated it. But at the same time, like I want more.

Hannah Furst:
So now that we're talking about Netflix TV series, Brave New World on Stan, if you are looking for highly choreographed orgy scenes, it is amazing. It's got like all these like-

Joanna Flemming:
I was going to ask what it was about, but I won't now.

Hannah Furst:
Well, it's based on a book, Brave New World. It's pretty sexy, I would say. But it's like the big thing on Stan at the moment. I can't believe ... You're not going to watch it, are you?

Joanna Flemming:
I've not heard of it. I'm always really behind in these kind of things.

Hannah Furst:
Yeah. I mean, it sounds weird. Like they do these drugs called soma and they have orgies. It sounds really weird, but it's not. It's really not. It's actually really good.

Joanna Flemming:
Okay. So Hannah, what is on today's episode? So

Hannah Furst:
On today's episode, we have Amy joining us again to talk about stretch marks. Then we have our favourite over 40s makeup artist, Amanda Ramsay, coming on to talk about all things makeup and over 40s makeup. And then, of course, the products we didn't know we needed.

Joanna Flemming:
Welcome back, Amy, for another episode.

Amy:
Thanks for having me. Very excited to be here to talk about a topic I know intimately well.

Joanna Flemming:
Yes, you did actually recommend that we do this cringy combo topic. And it's funny that you say that, because Hannah and I actually had this on our list to discuss within the first couple of episodes.

Amy:
What happened?

Joanna Flemming:
We got sidetracked with some other topics, but it always comes up. Anytime I post like a story or something, asking what people want us to talk about, stretch marks is always the most requested. So I'm glad that you have requested to talk about it, because I think we definitely need to cover it off as one of our cringy convo topics. So tell us, Amy, what has your experience been with stretch marks? How do you feel about them now?

Amy:
Oh my Lord. Maybe it's a good thing that other cringier conversations have kind of come up and taken the place of stretch marks, because I would hope that, one day, there's nothing cringy about stretch marks at all. Because that's definitely the case, but it takes a lot of time to arrive at that conclusion I think.

Joanna Flemming:
Absolutely.

Amy:
Everyone gets stretch marks, I guess that's the first thing to say. But my experience with stretch marks has been, it's actually probably quite common as a lot of people do throughout their life if you change weight. I've been thin. I've been plus-sized. I've been all sizes. And so my body has just copped the brunt of that in terms of stretch marks. So anytime that your size changes or your skin has to stretch, you're going to get stretch marks. And it didn't actually bother me in my teens, I don't think. But probably the time that I've been the most conscious of my stretch marks was when ... Because sometimes you just wake up one day and they're there. Like if you've put on weight recently or for whatever reason, say you're going through a growth spurt, I know a lot of teenagers, you just wake up and they're red, they're angry. And you're kind of like, "What? What the hell are these?"

Amy:
I have them all over my body. Bum, hips, boobs, stomach, everywhere. It's like I've got all body tattoos, but stretch marks.

Joanna Flemming:
I actually love that you said that everybody gets them, because I got stretch marks as I went through puberty and I have them all over my butt and they don't really bother me. Hannah, we spoke about this earlier, before we actually jumped on to record, and we both said, to be honest, they don't really bother us that much. It's not one of those things that I look out in the mirror and think, "Oh, I wish I could do something about that." But I think it's really important to acknowledge that you don't have to be okay with everything. You don't have to look at yourself in the mirror and be accepting of everything. It's okay to have insecurities about things like stretch marks. Because again, on the conditioning topic that we've spoken about in recent episodes, we're conditioned to feel like there's something wrong with having stretch marks.

Hannah Furst:
But isn't it interesting, I've just had a bit of a deep thought.

Amy:
Yes?

Hannah Furst:
We all work in the beauty industry. It's the beauty industry that has conditioned us to think there's things that's wrong with us so that we can buy things to fix them.

Amy:
Absolutely. If you think about, because we say all human beings can get stretch marks, but which, I guess, gender-

Hannah Furst:
Cares.

Amy:
... or gender identifying, who are the ones that care? And it's women because, as we know, back in the day, and it was probably dreamt up by men, I would say. It's a bunch like Mad Men. It's a bunch of dudes sitting around a table in a boardroom and they're like, "Hm, how do we get the women to buy this cream? Let's tell them that it gets rid of stretch marks." And I'd also say that the fashion industry has a role to play in this as well. Because Victoria secret, for example, only just showed advertising with, still a thin woman, but with undies on with stretch marks. A lot of fashion advertising has been airbrushed, and magazine covers. There's just so many different factors at play.

Hannah Furst:
We've spoken about this, Jo, about why I grew up thinking my pores were disgusting and it was wrong because all I'd ever seen was airbrushed skin. I didn't know that pores and texture were normal.

Joanna Flemming:
And we had a similar conversation with Jess Rae King really early on in one of our episodes about cellulite, and the same kind of concept where we grow up to think that this is not something that should be on our bodies and that we should be hiding it or getting rid of it. But again, it's such a normal part of our anatomy to have cellulite and to have stretch marks. But I did want to look up exactly what stretch marks are, because I thought that would be an interesting little point to add. Because the American Academy of Dermatology actually say that a stretch mark is a type of scar, and that develops-

Hannah Furst:
Exactly.

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah. So as you can imagine, a scar is very hard to get rid of once it's there. So it happens when our skin stretches or shrinks quickly, so that abrupt change can cause the collagen and elastin, which supports our skin, to rupture. And then as the skin heals, the stretch marks may appear. Even the American Academy of Dermatology say it is totally normal to experience stretch marks. A lot of people obviously get stretch marks from growth spurts, pregnancy, rapid weight loss or gain, and sometimes weight training as well, which we may see more in men. I've seen men with stretch marks before. Obviously not as many as I have seen women. But yeah, it's just another thing that women have to deal with, right?

Amy:
That's it. I think probably the other really important thing to know is, very similar to cellulite, everyone's always wanting to know how can I get rid of cellulite? How can I get rid of stretch marks? How can I get rid of scars? And there's no exercise for the skin. The skin can't be trained, I guess, if we're talking about like the physical, once something has stretched, it's stretched. And it might bounce back, and that has a lot to do with your age. So if you are a younger person, your skin might have a bit more or elasticity than say someone in their 50s. But there's so many creams and lotions and potions and all the things that claim to get rid of stretch marks.

Amy:
And I just want to make a bold claim, but there isn't a cream that can remove stretch marks. Especially if they're ones that you had when you were a teenager. It's a little bit different if they're recent stretch marks, so like a recent scar when it's still that pinky ... And I'm not a doctor by the way, but this is just speaking from my own personal experience. When the stretch marks is still that pinky kind of reddy colour, and it's the same with scars, like I've got some surgery scars that I'm trying to fade at the moment. Using a vitamin E cream or a vitamin E oil can help to reduce their appearance. But once they're that silvery line, there's nothing really you can do to get rid of them.

Amy:
So, at the end of the day, the only person who suffers from the stretch marks is yourself when you're self conscious about them. No one else gives a (beep), and no one is looking at them on the beach.

Hannah Furst:
So true. On that point, there has been some dermatologists that have come out and said there is nothing that can prevent them from happening. And there is very little that you can do about them once they have turned into the white marks as well. And I think there is some misconception around tanning being able to reduce the appearance of them, and that's absolutely not true either. So please don't go and sun bake trying to reduce the appearance of them. But apparently there is some research to suggest that topical retinoids like a tretinoin or prescription retinoid mixed with some kind of other in-clinic treatment, like ablative lasers, can be effective. But obviously in a dermatologist setting.

Hannah Furst:
So the things that you're buying over the counter or trying to do at home, or you're doing DIY stuff, none of that is probably going to be effective.

Joanna Flemming:
Do you think it's an old wives tale? Because my mum said that the reason she doesn't have ... Of course Linda would say this. She said, "The reason I don't have stretch marks on my stomach is because I used this oil every single day." So that was then passed down to me as like, oh, that's why.

Amy:
I think there's something to be said about like skin is skin and it's going to stretch, and there can be something to be said about having, say during pregnancy, it's often recommended you do moisturise the skin regularly. Like give the skin hydration to kind of keep it in its best condition. It's not necessarily going to prevent you from getting-

Hannah Furst:
It's not a silver bullet.

Amy:
Yeah. And it's genetics too sometimes.

Hannah Furst:
I mean, there's no harm in doing it, really. You're just keeping [crosstalk 00:11:58] hydrated.

Amy:
Well, that's it. You don't lose. No one loses in that situation, especially if someone else can rub it in for you.

Joanna Flemming:
I so agree with that.

Hannah Furst:
All right. Well we've pretty much covered off stretch marks for today, I think. Did anyone else have anything they wanted to add?

Amy:
Just live your life.

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah.

Amy:
That's what I say.

Joanna Flemming:
Live your life. That's Amy's last comment. Love that. Live your life.

Joanna Flemming:
So today's guest joining us is award-winning makeup artist, educator, and over 40s makeup expert, Amanda Ramsay. You may have seen her across all of our other channels. Welcome to the podcast, Amanda. We thought it was only fitting that you joined us on the podcast since you've been all over YouTube and Instagram.

Amanda Ramsay:
Thanks girls. Thanks. It's wonderful to be here with you.

Joanna Flemming:
Thanks for joining us.

Joanna Flemming:
So as a woman and a makeup artist in your late 40s, Amanda, how have has your approach to makeup changed over the years?

Amanda Ramsay:
I just laugh because it's changed so much. Look, I think makeup has gotten a little bit too serious. We've lost a little bit of that playfulness and that fun. And I think there's so many women my age and older that are almost paralysed with fear of getting it wrong. So that's just something that I've really noticed and want to help to change, and bring back a bit more let's not take it too seriously. It's makeup. It's supposed to be playful and fun. And I guess, to answer your question, I grew up in the 80s. So I've gone from matte, heavily powdered, thank you Max Factor, pancake makeup, where we literally had the pancake and the sponge, to now fresh, luminous, dewy, natural-looking skin. It's all about the skin for me. T's all about the skin looking like natural, not cover up.

Amanda Ramsay:
And back when I was learning makeup, before I became a makeup artist, it was called coverup. Foundation was called coverup. And I think we need to undo that a little bit. And a lot of 40 plus women still might call it coverup, or think of it as coverup, but it's not coverup. It's enhance up. So I've really moved and transitioned from that more matte, powdery finished to a luminous fresh, healthy finish.

Amanda Ramsay:
And I think the other thing, the third thing for me, is that it's not enough for a product to perform really well. I expect that. That's a given. I'm all about products also need to nourish and nurture and look after the health of your skin as a mature woman. So pack it with skin loving ingredients and I'm all for it. I think that's the shift. It's a shift from powdery matte-finished cover up to luminous, healthy, glowy-looking skin.

Joanna Flemming:
Before I get onto my next question, which is about your viral TikTok video that you did for us, you've done quite a few videos with us and they've all gone incredibly well. Do you see enough 40 plus faces out there doing makeup? Do you think that there's a bit of fear around getting out there on camera? Like I really related to what you said, is that makeups become scary. Because I feel the same with colour and coloured eye shadow. All these like pro 20 somethings on YouTube, and I'm like, "What are you doing? I can't do that."

Amanda Ramsay:
And do you need to? Look, I celebrate the creativity. I also enjoy, love, watching Instagram makeup. But I do think it has invited a level of stress for some women. And confusion. Do I need to be doing that? I think as a mature makeup expert, I've noticed that it's getting a bit confusing, and I think maybe that's why it went a bit viral. I don't know. I think it's hilarious that it's gone viral.

Amanda Ramsay:
But I also had another thought, that this pro-age movement is really gaining momentum. Hallelujah. I've been singing the pro-age song for years now, and it's just so magnificent to see it's the time to be a woman age 40 plus. It's finally being celebrated. And that social media has helped us see a lot more of that, too.

Hannah Furst:
That TikTok video got 70,000. Jo, when you wrote this question it had 40,000, and it's now gone up to 70,000 views.

Amanda Ramsay:
No way. That is too funny. My 11 year old son thinks it's hilarious that mum's TikTok video went viral.

Hannah Furst:
In that TikTok you mentioned three makeup tips for over 40s. Can you tell us what those tips are?

Amanda Ramsay:
Yes. First of all, you all freak me out making me do TikTok. You know that, don't you?

Joanna Flemming:
Amanda was very worried about the TikTok. I was like, "You can do this."

Amanda Ramsay:
But you can teach a Gen X-er new tricks. That's what we've learned.

Hannah Furst:
Exactly.

Amanda Ramsay:
Okay. My three top makeup tips from that viral video were; number one is the golden triangle of amazingness, I like to call it. It's using a light weight, light reflecting liquid under your eye in the shape of a triangle. And what that does is really brightens and lifts your complexion. Under eye darkness is a real challenge for a lot of mature skinned beauties, for a whole host of reasons. But we just need to not get too hung up on it. The occipital bone is quite literally deteriorating, so your eyes are falling a little bit back into your head. That's why you're more aware of the darkness, perhaps, than you were in your twenties. There's not much you can do about that. That's life. That's the beauty of ageing and that's the beauty of maturing.

Amanda Ramsay:
There's nothing we can do about that, but we can use this golden triangle of amazingness technique to really brighten and lift and make you ... It's like eight hours of sleep in a tube if you get the formula right. It will really brighten your complexion. But I think you've got to just not beat yourself up about that. Let a bit of that go and enjoy the privilege of being mature aged.

Amanda Ramsay:
Tip two is the banging bright lip. Like really rock a bright lip. Now I grew up with a mother who never left home without her lippy on, so I don't know if it, just by osmosis, became my thing.

Hannah Furst:
Same.

Amanda Ramsay:
But I do think ... I always say that confident women wear a bright lipstick, but bright lipstick also gives confidence. It's a mood shifter. So even if you're not feeling confident, you whack a bright lippy on and it gives the impression of. And that just kind of permeates everything. When you're feeling good, you're radiating. So it's a mood shifter. It also says, "Hi, I'm here." It's like a visibility cue as well, because long gone are the days that mature ... I don't like using the word mature because I still haven't grown up yet. But you know what I mean? Women over 40. I think that long gone are those days where we want to fade into the background. Everyone deserves to be visible and I feel like a banging, bright lip can do that. And it will really lift your complexion too.

Joanna Flemming:
Hannah loves a bold, red lip, and she nails it. A red lip looks so good on her.

Hannah Furst:
You know what you've just made me feel? I'm feeling so down about myself at the moment, and I'm going to wake up tomorrow and I'm going to put on a bright lip. You wait and see me, Joanna, on our Zoom call.

Joanna Flemming:
Thank you.

Hannah Furst:
I need it. I needed this pep talk.

Amanda Ramsay:
Yes. You did need the pep talk, and I think everyone does need the pep talk. Because I hear so often, "Oh, I couldn't do a bright lip." It's like that confidence has just been shattered somewhere along the line, or and current state of affairs with the whole global mood, we could all do with a banging, bright lip right now to help shift our mood.

Hannah Furst:
Yeah.

Amanda Ramsay:
Okay. So I should move on, shouldn't I? To tip three. Therapy session may continue shortly.

Amanda Ramsay:
Okay. Tip three is always do your lower lash line first with eyeshadow. So even if you're not a smokey eye girl, you just take a little bit of shadow, even if it's just a hint of bronzer, do your lower lash line first, before you do your upper part of your eye. Because when you follow your lower lash line, it kicks up in the corner and you will never have a droopy looking eye again. Now I know we're staying in our positivity bubble, I don't want to break my positivity bubble, but the outer corners of your eyes do become more down turned as your crinkles and wrinkles tend to deepen there. So if you're always following that top line, it's going to move downwards. Does that make sense? I know it's more a visual thing.

Hannah Furst:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah.

Amanda Ramsay:
You'll have to go to the Adore beauty channels to have a look at me demoing it.

Hannah Furst:
You will. You'll have to go and watch the TikTok if you haven't seen it yet. I love that tip. And something I was told by a makeup artist many years ago was to recommend a brown mascara for more mature women over a black mascara. Why would that be?

Amanda Ramsay:
Well, I don't subscribe to that point of view, but I think-

Hannah Furst:
Interesting.

Amanda Ramsay:
I think where that's coming from is that brown is a bit softer. So if you are transitioning to silver and your skin is getting a little more pale, then maybe you feel that the black is too harsh. However, I don't subscribe to that, and can I tell you why? I'm a bit like, why bother with brown? Because if you're fair skinned, you have pale, blue-green eyes, I get it. It is a little bit softer and you don't like a mascara that looks too dark or too dramatic, maybe go for Brown. So that's probably where that was coming from. But here's why I love black. Lashes fade and they do tend to get a little more thin. We want to see them. There's that saying, isn't there, that the eyes are the window to the soul? We want to enhance your eyes. So by defining them with a beautiful black, uber-black mascara, we get instant definition to your eyes. So, instant drama.

Hannah Furst:
These questions probably for 30 plus not just 40 plus, because I have got this problem as well. How can we avoid product settling into the fine lines, especially around the eyes? Because that's definitely something that I have noticed for myself as a 30 plus woman. And I'm sure 40 plus, as well, feel the same. Joanna, you wouldn't as a 20 something.

Joanna Flemming:
I'm not there yet.

Hannah Furst:
You're not there quite yet. But yeah, what's the secret? Give us your secrets.

Amanda Ramsay:
Well, the bad news is you can't cover crinkles and wrinkles.

Hannah Furst:
Thought so.

Amanda Ramsay:
So it's futile to try. I think the secret, honestly, is; A, embrace them. B, make sure your skin is really well prepped before you reach for any form of foundation makeup product. Really well-prepped skin, make sure it's really well, hydrated and moisturised before you add any product. And I guess the other secret is, the more lightweight the liquid formula is that you use around your crinkles and wrinkles, or fine lines as you so delicately called them, the more lightweight formula, the better. So, if you contemplate the more product you pack on, the more product there is to sit in the fine lines and crinkles. So use lightweight and layer light formulas.

Joanna Flemming:
I love that use the YSL Touche Eclat under your eyes in that TikTok, because it's so lightweight and it blends into the skin so seamlessly that it really doesn't create anywhere for product to sit into, because it blends into the skin so well. And I did see a couple of comments being like, "Oh, wouldn't that cake under your eyes?" But the formula of Touche Eclat is so light that it really doesn't. And it's so illuminating as well.

Amanda Ramsay:
It is a secret weapon. Hannah, that's your secret weapon. That YSL Touche Eclat for me is a secret weapon. The formula is so lightweight. And it's not officially a concealer, it is a highlighter type product. So anything, it doesn't have to be YSL Touche Eclat, but anything that is very lightweight. Even if your foundation, just make sure your foundation is a lightweight formula. The more product, the more likely it is to sit in the crinkles. And move away from the powder.

Hannah Furst:
We had a conversation recently about how your makeup style may change as you go grey. Can you talk a little bit more around that? I really liked the points that you spoke about. This is a personal conversation, obviously, that we had together. But I'd love for our audience to hear it.

Amanda Ramsay:
Okay. Silver foxes. Let's talk about the silver foxes. Basically, listen up all silver sisters out there, you're cool. There has never been a better time in our lifetime to be silver haired. I think the thing is here, if you've been dark haired, pre-transition, it is much more of a change. You're going from dark hair to platinum, let's say. Blondies, you've got a little less of a transition happening. So I think the shock to the system is a little less for those of us that have been blonde. I think what it means is when you're going grey or silver, we like to say silver, just sounds a bit fancier, it means there's less of a contrast to your skin.

Amanda Ramsay:
So you need to change up. You might need to wear a little bit more blush than you're used to wearing. That's usually the key thing. A little bit more blushed to add some colour, to give you more contrast in your look. Adding a bit of brights, so blush, it's probably a little bit more than what you're used to. A sweep of bronzer is really great too, to help warm up your complexion and give it a little bit of contrast to your hair. Also, filling in your brows as well. So if your brows have stayed the same as they were and they haven't gone silver or grey, then cool. Just fill them in. If they have transitioned and gone a bit silver, then just fill them in with a colour that is closer to your natural colour before you started transitioning to silver.

Amanda Ramsay:
What else? Oh, uber-black mascara. I just think silver women look amazing with an uber-black mascara to really give your eyes definition and help them to stand out. And of course, pop on a bright lippy. I think being silver haired is a really good time to embrace a bright or vibrant. It doesn't have to be your bright red or your bright fuchsia, it could just be a more neutral tone that has some vibrancy to it.

Hannah Furst:
So you must've been witness to every brow style under the sun, since we've had so many different trends over the decades. What role did brows play and how important are they?

Amanda Ramsay:
Okay. Brows. And yes, my goodness have we been through it. I was thinking about it. It was like 70s they were really waxed and arched. 80s they were really thick and fluffy, a la Brooke Shields. Then 90s we were skinny. In 2000s they were pencil thin. And then we got the textured brows of the Kardashian sort of vibe. No wonder women are confused about their brows. It's always forever changing.

Amanda Ramsay:
And I think the thing with brows is that, if you contemplate a beautiful painting, so let's say you've bought a beautiful work of art and it's sitting in your living zone and it looks amazing, once you frame that beauty, it just comes to life. It really comes into its own and comes to life. Well, it's the same with brows. They do frame your face and give you a bit of an anchor point. They kind of pull everything together. Plus they can just make you look a little more polished and pulled together, I think as well. So my tips for brows, to try and soften your brow arch. I see a lot of ladies that have what we makeup artists called the Ns. So the brow kind of goes up really high in the arch and then comes down on the corners. So we want to try and soften that arch a little bit.

Joanna Flemming:
Well, you had yours laminated recently and they look amazing.

Amanda Ramsay:
I absolutely loved it. I must say, when I first had it done, my husband was very mean and he sent me a photo. I sent him a photo just saying, "I'm giving you a heads up because I've had my brows done, and whenever they tint my brows they're usually quite dark." And then he sent me this photo of Ming the Merciless from Star Trek. Because I did look a little bit terrifying. Because they were very dark and my kids always go, "Oh my God, you look like Dad." But that's only for a couple of days. And yeah, I did absolutely love it. And the reason I love it ... I wanted to try it so I could confidently talk to my audience about the process. And the reason I love it is, it's the process of really brushing your brows up. And when you brush your brows up, it gives your eyes a lift.

Hannah Furst:
Yeah definitely. It lifts everything up.

Amanda Ramsay:
Lifts everything up. So it's a great ... I'm actually going to have it done again next week because I loved it so much.

Hannah Furst:
Lucky you. We can now go and get out brows done too, so you're not the only one.

Amanda Ramsay:
Yes, you can now, can't you?

Hannah Furst:
We're free.

Amanda Ramsay:
Yay.

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah. We can have brow and lash treatments. No skin stuff yet, but we'll get there I'm sure.

Joanna Flemming:
As you mentioned earlier, you love a bold lip. We've mentioned that quite a few times, regardless of age. What are some of your all time favourite lipstick shades? I've got to know.

Amanda Ramsay:
Okay. There's one that I actually bought from you guys, which is on high rotation at the moment. It's a Bobby Brown. It's called Manhattan Sunrise. I just absolutely love that. It's a really nice, clear, chorally red. I love RAGEISM Beauty, which is an Australian mineral brand that's been formulated specifically for mature skin. They have a colour called Scarlet, which is just this knockout, full-coverage red. And I also absolutely love Ere Perez Olive Oil Lipstick in the colour First Date. It's this stunning raspberry red. I also like, Ere Perez do one in the colour Surprise, which is a really bold fuchsia pink, which I'm yet to put on a client or a customer and they haven't loved it. And of course, MAC Lady Danger.

Joanna Flemming:
Ooh yes. I love Lady Danger. That's my go-to red lip if I'm wearing black.

Amy:
Yeah. It's pretty universally flattering. And I think Relentlessly Red is stunning. It's more like a watermelon.

Joanna Flemming:
I've got that one too. I never wear a red lip, like barely ever, but I've got all of these red lipsticks at home. If you'd like to see more tips from Amanda, you can find her on our YouTube and our TikTok, So go and check her out. Or you can follow her on Instagram, as well. Thanks for joining us today, Amanda. It was so good to chat. We'll have to have you back again.

Amy:
I'll see you again. Thanks for having me.

Joanna Flemming:
All right. So my product I didn't know I needed. I hope you don't mind that I'm just going to go first, Hannah.

Hannah Furst:
Go for it.

Joanna Flemming:
My product I didn't know I needed is the Bioderma Sensibio Light moisturiser. I was recently sent this for a little virtual facial thing we did with Melanie Grant, which was super fun. It was a really good experience. I was like, it was like watching God do a facial, because Melanie Grant is just like the Queen of Skin. I tried this moisturiser. I have used the Bioderma Micellar Water for a really long time. Love it, but haven't really used that much from the rest of their range, so I was trying a lot of these things for the first time. And to be honest, I found quite a few things in that group of products that I actually really liked and have continued using.

Joanna Flemming:
But one of those has been the Bioderma Sensibio Light moisturiser. And this is designed for normal to combination skin types. And I'm a normal to dry skin type, but I actually find it quite hydrating. No congestion, blends into the skin beautifully, doesn't peel. It's an excellent moisturiser. But the best part is, it's under 40 bucks. It's like 37.99 or something. So compared to my favourite moisturiser, which is Aspect Phytostat 9, very, very affordable. So an excellent option for anyone who is keen to get a great moisturiser, but doesn't really know what to buy and is on a little bit of a budget. Obsessed with it. Love it. I think it's great. Suitable for sensitive skin types as well. It's a soothing cream, so it's great for intolerant skin. So definitely recommend that as a moisturiser. Which is unlike me, because generally I don't recommend anything except Phytostat 9. I just always talk about that. That's mine for today. What's yours?

Hannah Furst:
I did just, before I get onto mine, wanted to say Lumira sent me Cuban Tobacco.

Joanna Flemming:
After your complaint.

Hannah Furst:
After my on-air complaint that you got in Cuban Tobacco and I didn't. They very quickly rectified the situation.

Joanna Flemming:
Like we're fighting siblings.

Hannah Furst:
I know. Just in time for my date as well. Because I got sent the fragrance and, by the way, the guy sent me a text, this is when I knew I wanted to go on a date with him. He just said, "I must say, Linda to fan right here." That was his text. So I woke up to that in the morning and I was like, "All right. Yep. I can go on a date with this guy. He's a fan of Linda." But I had been sent the perfume and I had used it over the weekend and I just felt instantly sexy. And then I wore it on the date too. Look, he didn't say anything, but I felt [crosstalk 00:35:05]

Joanna Flemming:
But you knew that he was thinking it.

Hannah Furst:
Of course, of course. But I wanted to talk about the eyeshadow palette that I am loving.

Joanna Flemming:
Is this the one from your colourful eye tutorial on YouTube?

Hannah Furst:
Yes. Yes. So I've done a tutorial ... I have this thing where we say that beauty's for everyone and everyone should be able to do anything. And it just sometimes, on Instagram and on YouTube, I don't feel like I can. And I remember once I did some contour on Instagram and some girl sent a message, was I like, "You done it in the wrong spot." And I was like, "Oh please don't. I'm just giving it a go, okay? Just let me live my life." And I just love colourful eye shadow and I've just felt it's out of reach because of my skills. So I did this YouTube video, which kind of freed me. I was just like, "I'm just going to do it."

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah. And it turned out really well.

Hannah Furst:
Well, Amelia [Sinksin 00:36:03], she's a makeup artist, she actually said, pack it on with your finger to avoid fallout and then just blend it out. [crosstalk 00:36:09]

Joanna Flemming:
Yeah. But also you don't have to start with anything too crazy. Like you can start with using a blush on your eyes, just so you can get a feel for a little bit of colour. And then as you get more confident to wear colour, you can then get into the more hectic-

Hannah Furst:
I went from zero to a hundred.

Joanna Flemming:
That's just a Hannah Furst thing. But others might want to just ease into it if they feel a little bit self conscious about going all out with colour. But yeah.

Hannah Furst:
If you're ready to take it to the next level, MAC Cosmetics, Mac Art Library. It's Design Art, that's the pallet. So it's got like aqua green, pink, blue, orange. But then it's got like all these shimmery ones as well. So I've been using the pink. I also did Linda. I did Linda's eyes using it as well, and she loved it.

Joanna Flemming:
Oh, did you?

Hannah Furst:
She is obsessed with the Makeup Forever, because Makeup Forever sent me some eyeliners and I don't wear blue eyeliner.

Joanna Flemming:
Yes. I use that one.

Hannah Furst:
So Mum had said that her eyeliner, it just would be gone.

Joanna Flemming:
Your eye eats it.

Hannah Furst:
So she's been using that. So, Makeup Forever Aqua Resist Colour Pencil, she says it does not move.

Joanna Flemming:
It doesn't. Definitely need an oil cleanser.

Hannah Furst:
Yeah. It stays for up to 24 hours of wear. So she's really happy with that little addition. So yeah, colour is my new thing. But go check out the YouTube video. So we'll put that in the episode notes if you want to laugh at me trying to do my makeup on camera at home.

Joanna Flemming:
We'd love to see your attempts at colour.

Hannah Furst:
Now that we have some of our lives back, we're probably going to have a lot more value to add to these episodes. Considering we've been a little bit quiet.

Joanna Flemming:
I've got to say, since the Inspired Unemployed episode went live, I've had quite a few guys DM me.

Hannah Furst:
Yeah. I don't know why you and not me?

Joanna Flemming:
I had a pizza restaurant DM me, and we took that offline. Yeah. And I was like, just chatting away to this pizza restaurant and I'm like, "Sorry, who are you?" And then ...

Joanna Flemming:
I can say I would've replied to a pizza restaurants.

Joanna Flemming:
Anyway, that's us wrapped up for another week.

Hannah Furst:
So there's going to be more, I think. Because when it rains, it pours.

Joanna Flemming:
Great. I look forward to that. I look forward to hearing more of your stories. Maybe I might get one DM. I don't know.

Hannah Furst:
Come on, Jo. We all know you've had a few. You're just playing coy. We'll leave it there.

Joanna Flemming:
Thanks everyone for joining us today.

Hannah Furst:
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