Episode 42: How To Get Rid Of Milia

We're back for another episode of Beauty IQ Uncensored, brought to you by Adore Beauty. 

What’s on this episode? We’re glad you asked...

Milia..aka one of our most requested topics.

We did touch on this topic in our last episode of 2019, but we figured since we've had SO many questions about it, that we'd cover it in a whole segment.

The moral of the story is, don't try to extract them yourself!

Undertones & Foundation Shade Matching 

@tanyaartistry joins us to chat about undertones - how do you know which undertone you are? And does that impact your shade?

We discuss our fave brands with expansive shade ranges, including M.A.C, NARS and Make Up For Ever (Tanya loves the Ultra HD Stick Foundation), and Tanya tells us what it was like being trained by Rihanna's makeup artist.

Shop Foundations here with our shade matching tool, Findation.

Check out Tanya's work here.

Products we didn't know we needed:

Jo: Coco & Eve Sunny Honey Bali Bronzing Foam - Dark

Hannah: SkinCeuticals Glycolic 10 Renew Overnight & La Roche-Posay Toleriane Ultra Dermallergo Serum.

Read our disclaimer here.

Hosts: Joanna Fleming & Hannah Furst

Guests: Tanya Artistry

We discuss one of our most requested topics - Milia. Plus! Tanya Artistry joins us to chat about undertones and shade matching your foundation

Beauty IQ Uncensored Episode 42 Transcript - 'How To Get Rid Of Milia'

 

Hannah Furst:

Welcome everybody, to Beauty IQ the podcast.


Joanna Flemming:

I'm your host, Joanna Fleming.


Hannah Furst:

And I am your co-host, Hannah Furst.


Joanna Flemming:

What happened to the dating podcast? When are we hearing it?


Hannah Furst:

Sorry, I started listening back to all of the content and I just felt, it was great, but it was just not appropriate. If you don't know I had four or so dates, and I asked their permission, but I recorded the dates.


Joanna Flemming:

Yep.


Hannah Furst:

And they were all super keen.


Joanna Flemming:

I really want to hear them.


Hannah Furst:

One of the questions was, "Are you intimidated by vibrators, or do you guys work well as a team?" That was one of the questions.


Joanna Flemming:

And did any of them surprise you with their answer?


Hannah Furst:

They all were like fine.


Joanna Flemming:

But is that because they knew they were being recorded?


Hannah Furst:

Possibly.


Joanna Flemming:

They definitely would not have been their true selves.


Hannah Furst:

I was my podcast self, so I came across as way more charming than I usually do.


Joanna Flemming:

Okay.


Hannah Furst:

I need to pretend that every date's recorded for a podcast, and then I'd come across as totally charming because otherwise I'm a mess.


Joanna Flemming:

I'd love to just eavesdrop on you on a date.


Hannah Furst:

This won't surprise you, but I always talk about moving to Thailand. And then I think I scare them off with that, because they want to settle down and I'm like, "My longterm plan is to live on a commune in Thailand".


Joanna Flemming:

And they're like, "I'm 35, I want to buy a house and have three kids."


Hannah Furst:

Yes.


Joanna Flemming:

"No thanks."


Hannah Furst:

Because of my age now, a lot of the guys I date have kids, and they're like, "No, that won't work for me. My daughter's in Melbourne."


Joanna Flemming:

Oh God. Okay. Well we can talk about dating all day.


Hannah Furst:

That's what I wanted to talk about today, was that Netflix show. Have you watched it yet? [crosstalk 00:01:41].


Joanna Flemming:

365, is it?


Hannah Furst:

365 days.


Joanna Flemming:

I haven't watched it yet, no.


Hannah Furst:

So, look, anyone that follows me on Instagram will know that I'm obsessed with the main guy, and he's definitely my future husband. And actually someone messaged me on Instagram and said, "If I don't marry him, I'll be really upset." Which is exactly how I feel.


Joanna Flemming:

Oh, we got competition.


Hannah Furst:

So, actually, my new project is I'm going to write a romance novel.


Joanna Flemming:

Okay. Yeah.


Hannah Furst:

I know I keep jumping from project to project.


Joanna Flemming:

No, that's a good idea, I think for you, that's very fitting.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah, because I'm actually going to, let's not discuss this story on the podcast, but it's going to follow the same story, but be way more raunchy of you know like the, you know the story?


Joanna Flemming:

[inaudible 00:02:27] India. Yeah.


Hannah Furst:

No, no, no, no, no. Can you please beep this out Matthew? [00:02:31]


Joanna Flemming:

Oh, Oh my God. Yes.


Hannah Furst:

If anyone out there has done any projects over ISO. Let us know what they've been. I'd love to get some, I'd love to read out some DM's on here about [crosstalk 00:02:45] what your project has been.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah. So on today's episode, we are talking about milia because we get thousands of questions about milia. And then we are talking to Tanya Artistry about finding the right foundation shade. And of course our products we didn't know we needed.


Hannah Furst:

Well. Okay. So from my understanding, milia is when, I'm not going to look at the notes, milia is when something or other, gets trapped under the skin and it has, it forms like a little, I don't know what gets trapped, but it forms like a little white bump.


Joanna Flemming:

Yep.


Hannah Furst:

And it looks like a pimple, but it's not, you can't squeeze it like a pimple. It has to be extracted. And I used to get them under my eyes when I was using a heavy eye cream and my mom gets them too.


Joanna Flemming:

Yes.


Hannah Furst:

How did I do?


Joanna Flemming:

You did pretty good. You did pretty good. So it's when a buildup of keratin happens under the skin. So that's like the cells that form skin and hair and all of those kinds of things. So that's when it gets trapped under the skin but it's not, as you said, it's not like a pimple, so it's not where you're squeezing it and it's coming out easily, which is why it's so important not to try and get them out yourself.


Joanna Flemming:

I know that it's really tempting and all the time I tell my mum off for doing it because she gets them and she'll all of a sudden have this like red mark on her face. And I'm like, "Mum, what have you been picking? Like stop? What have I told you." But it happens sometimes because the products that you're using are too heavy. So as you said, when you were using like a heavy eye cream, you found that you're getting them around your eyes, but it can also happen with quite thick moisturizers as well, if your skin just can't tolerate it. Often in that case, I recommend switching to a gel or a water gel texture in your eye cream and your moisturizer to try and curb them reoccurring once you've had them extracted, but also using a chemical exfoliant regularly. And that might've been a component for you as well, Hannah, in them going away was that you were using a chemical exfoliant really regularly to get rid of that layer of dead skin.


Joanna Flemming:

That's sitting on the surface, which can contribute to the milia happening. So it is preventable in some instances, but also just be aware that you shouldn't be picking at them because they are very hard to get out and you'll end up damaging that skin around the milia. And you can end up causing quite a bit of damage to it. And you don't want to end up causing broken capillaries and stuff in the area. So I do recommend absolutely going and having them extracted. Actually James Vivian did a couple of extractions on me.


Hannah Furst:

And on me. So wait, Jo and I both went and had our first treatments back from [inaudible 00:05:20] , but we went together of course, cause someone had to film the other, it didn't happen, it didn't happen if you didn't film it. And we both had our milia extracted, it's like a little needle.


Hannah Furst:

You can't feel it. And then the needle goes into it and then he squeezes it out.


Joanna Flemming:

It's completely painless. And they know exactly what they're doing. And as you said, they just prick the surface of the skin and that helps to ease it out without causing damage around the milia. But yeah, if you don't want to go and have it extracted, or you don't know where to go try using a chemical exfoliant, like a lactic or a glycolic acid, but again, around the eyes, that's a bit tricky to do because you don't really want to be taking those products up around the eye. So I would go and see a dermatologist or dermal clinician to have them treated because they are a bit annoying. They get in the way.


Hannah Furst:

The other thing is to swap if you're using a heavy eye cream, that's all that I needed to do was to swap my eye cream.


Hannah Furst:

I was starting to get those yeah, the white bumps under the eyes. And so I was like immediately swapped to a serum or a gel.


Joanna Flemming:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).


Hannah Furst:

And that cleared it up.


Joanna Flemming:

It's really, really common. But there are eye creams with things like retinol in them. I know Murad has one with retinol in it. There's a few other brands that have them that may help because I think that's a lighter texture, but it's also got that retinol content in it as well, which helps to speed up cell turnover so that could help reduce them coming back as well. But yes, the main moral of the story here is please don't try and pick them because I get a lot of questions about milia. My first response is please don't try and get them out yourself.


Hannah Furst:

Well, I probably would try, but.


Joanna Flemming:

I know that you would.


Hannah Furst:

I know.


Joanna Flemming:

That message was mainly for you.


Hannah Furst:

I bought one of those, I went into Canvas Warehouse the other day and I bought one of those sticks that have like.


Joanna Flemming:

You didn't [crosstalk 00:07:04] the extractor tools.


Hannah Furst:

Yes. I bought an extract... I haven't used it yet. I haven't had to, my skin's been pretty good. I got that to try and get my blackheads out.


Joanna Flemming:

Really.


Hannah Furst:

Next time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll let you know how I go.


Joanna Flemming:

You're meaning like the metal tool where it's got like the loop at the end. Yeah, yeah. What you'd see on pimple popping things. Yeah.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah. And it's got a needle, but because I had my blackheads extracted from, with James Vivian, they've been okay.


Joanna Flemming:

And are you going to go back and have another peel. Because you said after that you were a bit peely.


Hannah Furst:

I was like, nah, it's not going to peel. My skin is tough as nails. It did peel. It peeled for two days.


Joanna Flemming:

Just like flakiness?


Hannah Furst:

No, it was peeling. Like, it.


Joanna Flemming:

Really.


Hannah Furst:

It wasn't like, it wasn't like milky foot on my face, but it was still peeling. But I mean, you saw how much pain...I was in quite a lot of pain.


Joanna Flemming:

I know she messaged me later. She was like, "I was really trying to be brave."


Hannah Furst:

Well, cause I didn't want him to go soft. I wanted him to, I wanted the hardcore stuff, but he said that I can go more intense next time.


Joanna Flemming:

Oo. You had a pretty intense one. What did you have? You had a chemical peel, but what was it?


Hannah Furst:

I had a three layer chemical peel. And so it was, I think it was the highest strength. Salicylic acid, first. It smelled like petrol. And then there was, he put on an AHA over the top, but I can't remember which one and then a retinol.


Joanna Flemming:

Okay. Yep. And it really frosted over. I was like, oh yeah [crosstalk 00:08:29] that's a hardcore peel.


Hannah Furst:

It was amazing though. I absolutely loved it.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah. It's the perfect time actually to go and have a peel, if you can, especially a hardcore one. Like if you wanted to have cosmoline or something like that.


Hannah Furst:

We have to get someone to come in to talk about one of those like peels that you need to go on to general anesthetic.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah.


Hannah Furst:

I'm so interested. Like...


Joanna Flemming:

The TCA peels.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah, like something in town...I'd love to know all about it. If you've got quite bad acne scarring, is that the kind of concern that it would be treating?


Joanna Flemming:

So when I was working in a clinic, I saw a patient that had just come out of her surgery. She had something else done, but she also had a really hardcore peel done at the same time. And it was around her mouth, the smoker's lines. So she had really quite deep wrinkles in that area. And so she'd had this really hardcore peel all around her mouth and down to her chin.


Hannah Furst:

Right.


Joanna Flemming:

And it was like, the skin was raw. It was completely, there was no [crosstalk 00:09:24] skin that I was like, but she had a really good result from it. So I think that was a TCA peel. I'm pretty sure, but it was, that was many years ago. So my memory could be wrong, but yeah, she had it for those really deep lines, the smokers lines and actually had a really good result. So yeah. It's highly resurfacing as in your skin will no longer be there.


Hannah Furst:

Maybe just, maybe just don't smoke.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah.


Joanna Flemming:

So today's guest that we'd like to welcome on the podcast is here to talk about foundation shades. So Tanya Artistry joins us. Welcome, Tanya.


Tanya Artistry:

Thank you for having me.


Joanna Flemming:

No, our pleasure. We're glad to have you here because we wanted to really talk about finding the right foundation shade, because I think most of us have experienced this challenge at some point in our lives. Mine was probably at a M.A.C Counter when I was 15, but can you tell us a little bit about the different undertones in our skin from fair to deep skin tones?


Tanya Artistry:

Sure. What is undertone? Basically it's the underlying color in our skin tone. If you know what I mean. Like they could be different colors. There are three main undertones, which is cool undertone. Then you have neutral undertone and you also have warm undertone. So cool undertone is basically more like a pink undertone and warm undertone would be more like a golden yellowy amber sort of undertone.


Tanya Artistry:

So the neutral would be more like a combination of two. So that would be about undertones. These are the main ones.


Hannah Furst:

And what about the different undertones in foundations? How do you know which undertone you are and does your background impact the undertone?


Tanya Artistry:

Okay. So there are definitely different undertones in foundations. It's not just light, medium and deep. You have to pick the right undertone when you're looking for a foundation. So the way you can do it is there are two tests you can do, which is, first is your vein test, which you could do by looking at the wrist and if the veins are more purple and blue, then that would be a more cool toned undertone, skin tone. If you know what I mean?


Hannah Furst:

I'm just looking at my veins now. [crosstalk 00:11:49].


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah. And for someone who is a warmer skin tone person than the warm undertone would have more greenish veins. And if its neutral undertone, then that would be a combination of two.


Hannah Furst:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).


Joanna Flemming:

I think I'm a neutral undertone.


Hannah Furst:

You've got a neutral Jo.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah.


Hannah Furst:

I'm looking at mine and mine look quite blue.


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah. And another one, which is a really good one, which people, I'm not sure if they know about, you could do a photo test, which is you stand close to natural light and have a white dress or something close to your face. And then you can see in the mirror or take an image and see what reflection, what sort of undertone is coming through. Whether it's more golden or whether it's more yellow or more peachy or pink, that's another way to test undertone.


Joanna Flemming:

All right. That's interesting. So if you choose the wrong undertone in your foundation, how can that impact the finish of the foundation overall in both fair and deep skin tone?


Tanya Artistry:

It's a huge difference. Yeah. It's huge. You will never realize it in stores when you walk in and you know, because there are different lights and that plays a huge role when you look at foundations and things like that. So once you step out of the store and you're in natural lighting and you look at the foundation, it looks totally different. So my suggestion to everyone would, take at least three or four samples home. Don't jump to conclusions straight away in the stores that, "okay, this is my color and this is what I'm going to go for." Just take three or four foundations sampled. Wear it for at least a good two-three hours. If you don't want to go out with it, that's fine. But just check it in natural lighting and see if that's the color.


Joanna Flemming:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).


Hannah Furst:

I think for a long time I was wearing the wrong foundation shade.


Joanna Flemming:

We've all been there.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah. It was just the wrong color. And then, and you can really tell, cause your chest looks a completely different color.


Tanya Artistry:

Exactly, exactly.


Hannah Furst:

To your face,


Joanna Flemming:

Especially if it oxidizes on your skin as well. And you think it was the perfect shade and then three hours later, you look in the mirror and you're like, "Whoa, that's not right."


Tanya Artistry:

I get a lot of clients saying that. So it's very important to kind of try it out and wear it and see if that suits you. Now with undertones, I forgot to tell you that, definitely I think your background makes a huge difference too, in telling you what your undertone would be. So from starting from the lightest to the deepest skin tone, you still have these three main undertones.


Hannah Furst:

In terms of summer and winter foundations, do you recommend having a different foundation for summer and for winter or mixing shades to customize?


Tanya Artistry:

Yes. I would definitely recommend having at least a couple of foundations. Because if it's winter and we're like sitting in, in our rooms and we're more indoors, then we're not getting as much sun and our skin becomes more lighter. And if we are on a holiday, that's like a holiday foundation. When you go two shades darker, then in that case, you want to have like a darker shade on you. And when you're out and about like in winter or in summer, or if you've had a nice spray tan or something on, then you want to go in between.


Hannah Furst:

I actually had a really good tip from James Vivian, Jo, when we went to go see him, which was that I was using a face tanner. And it was like, I just had like the most, so many blackheads from fake tan. And so he said, don't fake tan your face, just color match your foundation, [crosstalk 00:15:32] body to your body, which I was like, Oh my God. Why have I never thought of that? That is such a good tip.


Joanna Flemming:

I think because Hannah we weren't wearing makeup to the office. So you're kind of relying on your face tan to give you kind of that [crosstalk 00:15:46] warmth in your face because we weren't wearing makeup, but that is a good tip.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah, no, you're totally right. Like you want to match your body to the foundation or something in between, especially for, I feel like for deeper skin tones, if their body's quite deep colored, then you don't want to go super dark as well. You want to be in between.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah.


Joanna Flemming:

I did wonder Tanya, what some of your favorite foundations with expansive shade ranges were. That's a big thing for me, especially when I'm writing about a new foundation, I expect them to have a really expansive shade range. You know, these days it's 40 minimum shades [crosstalk 00:16:26] what are some of the brands that you really love to turn to for a lot of shades.


Tanya Artistry:

I personally, I'm a product junkie.


Joanna Flemming:

So are we.


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah, yeah no, like crazy product junkie. So my favorite ones, my first love was M.A.C, because no other brand would make foundations for my skin color. They always had really wide, a range of foundations for all skin colors. So the other one, I really like, I'm a huge fan of, is NARS, because they have two types of foundations. One has more like a dewy finish, which is your sheer glow. And the other one is the radiant foundation. That is the one I use a lot on my clients and they have a wide variety of shades. So I love their range a lot. And Make Up For Ever too. Make Up For Ever stick foundations are the bomb. Like they're so good.


Joanna Flemming:

Yes. Actually one of our staff said that too, that she loves the stick foundation by Make Up For Ever.


Tanya Artistry:

It's so good. It's so long wearing. Great for photo shoots. If you have a really, really important event or like an interview or something, I would recommend wearing one of these foundations.


Joanna Flemming:

And I did want to ask, you were, correct me if I'm wrong, you were trained by one of the Fenty, head Fenty artists.


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah.


Joanna Flemming:

Did you pick up any amazing tips from doing that training that you can share with us?


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah. So I was trained in Los Angeles. That was last year. I was interning with Priscilla Ono, who's the global brand ambassador for Fenty Beauty and Rihanna Fenty's personal artist. So [crosstalk 00:18:05] she, yeah, it was so amazing. Like she's my guru. Because she does makeup for everyone. That's how I see myself as well, doing makeup for everyone, everyone, whoever sits on my chair, I should be able to create a magic for them. So the main thing I picked up from her was skin prep.


Joanna Flemming:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).


Tanya Artistry:

So you have to have this amazing skin care going on before, so that you put less makeup on. If you know what I mean. If your skin is looking good, your base is looking good or your foundation is looking good. And if you're just trying to slap it on and you know, you're not doing any prep work, then it doesn't look as good and it looks super cakey too.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah. That would have been an amazing experience learning from her.


Tanya Artistry:

It was so good. Yeah.


Hannah Furst:

Have you personally struggled? You mentioned just before about some of the brands that you really loved, but have you personally struggled to find your own foundation shade in the Australian market? And have you come up with any frustrations around the shades that are stocked in the Australasian market?


Tanya Artistry:

That's a very good question. Yes. I have struggled for many, many years. I was introduced to M.A.C when I started applying makeup, but there are so many brands. Like every, every day there's a new brand that comes up. So as a product junkie, you want to be able to try everything, but not every brand had this foundation for me. So yes, I did struggle. And then especially being a woman of color, I feel my skin tone keeps changing depending on if I've been on a holiday or if I've been indoors too much, that I feel like women with color, they have darker peripheries and like lighter face. So it's a little bit of a challenge. I don't think a lot of people pick the right foundation. It takes a lot of time to really nail it. And best advice would be to have two foundations, as we talked about before. One darker and one sort of lighter for a winter and kind of mix it up and have an in between color.


Hannah Furst:

And do you have any final tips for us on finding the right foundation? Whether it be shade or finish or coverage, are there any tips you can share with us, for anyone that's out there going "Oh, I just haven't found the one yet."


Tanya Artistry:

Again, have two foundations. Don't jump to the conclusion when you're in the stores, pick up samples and take them home, take photos and see what looks good on you. Finish-wise, it depends on your skin type. So if you are more on the dryer side, then you don't to go super matte. If you know what I mean, otherwise it's going to look really...the skins going to flake and dry out and things like that. You don't want that. That's not the foundation type for you. You want to go for something more dewy, but if you're a more dry skin type. But whereas if you're oily and you sweat a lot and you have like oily T zone, then you don't want to go something super dewy because that's not going to last you.


Joanna Flemming:

Yep. That's a good tip. Well, thank you so much for sharing all of your foundation shade knowledge with us Tanya. If you want to stalk, Tanya's amazing Instagram, it's @tanyaartistry. Is that right on Instagram?


Tanya Artistry:

Yeah, that's correct. Yeah.


Joanna Flemming:

Okay. So you can go and see Tanya's amazing face and her work on her clients on her Instagram. Thanks for joining us, Tanya.


Tanya Artistry:

Thank you so much for having me.


Hannah Furst:

Thank you.


Hannah Furst:

Sorry. I'm going to be a little bit naughty today and I'm choosing two products because they go, I feel that they go hand in hand really well together. I'm calling them the dynamic dewy duo.


Joanna Flemming:

Oo, okay.


Hannah Furst:

How's my marketing skills?


Joanna Flemming:

Great.


Hannah Furst:

As we've spoken about in this episode, we went to go get our skin treatments. I was told that I have a impaired barrier from James Vivian. So I am conscious of the fact that I start really give a [00:22:11] I'm still using all my actives but, I'm trying to add in sort of a calming serum, which I've never used before. So I...


Joanna Flemming:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).


Hannah Furst:

Actually used both of these together last night and just put a moisturizer over the top, which is quite unlike me. I usually lay out like a hundred things on top of each other. So, and that's probably why my skin's barrier is a little bit impaired at the moment.


Hannah Furst:

So basically it's the new SkinCeuticals Glycolic 10 Renew Overnight, which is, it is a 10%, I think, 10% true glycolic acid value. It's pretty intense. It's also got phytique acid, which is a exfoliator and a brightener. And it's got a soothing complex to help with irritation and redness. But when you put it on, it is, my skin does not tingle, but man did it tingle. You could really feel it eating up all those dead skin cells.


Joanna Flemming:

Yep.


Hannah Furst:

So I put that one on and I was like, well, I really want to put something like a hydrating soothing serum over the top. So I actually went for the, and I've not really, I know you love La Roche-Posay, but I don't use a lot of their products.


Joanna Flemming:

Your skin isn't as sensitive as mine.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah, exactly. But I use the La Roche-Posay Toleriane Ultra Dermallergo, I don't know how to say it.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah. I'd say that's probably accurate.


Hannah Furst:

I'm sure there's like a French way of saying that. But anyway, it's a soothing serum. It'll help to like reduce the appearance of redness, but it also gives hydration. It has hyaluronic acid in there. What I really like about these two products is they match, they're both blue. I just really liked the look of them together. Sorry, I put that one over the top. And then I put a moisturizer on top of that and oh my God, I woke up this morning. I took a photo, like as soon as I woke up, cause I knew I'd be doing this content. And it was super glowy. Like, you know that like fresh glycolic acid in the morning.


Joanna Flemming:

Yes. [crosstalk 00:24:16] Ugh love it. Yep.


Hannah Furst:

Love that. Sorry. I actually have some photos and we'll pop them on Instagram stories the day this episode comes out. But yeah, if you're looking for, I guess a really, quite a hardcore glycolic acid, but you then want to have like a nice soothing serum to put over the top. These two together are dynamo. Love them.


Joanna Flemming:

Okay. So my product today is a fake tan because fake tan has been the only thing that has been getting me through every week. I just, I am obsessed with this fake tan. So it's the Coco & Eve Sunny Honey Bali Bronzing Foam in dark. So it does come in an ultra dark, which has been very hard for us to get our hands on because I think it's sold out like worldwide. There's also a medium shade. I really like the dark for my skin tone, but it is an excellent tan because it can be express and it can also be like an overnight tan as well. So I, as you know, on Fridays Hannah, usually I join zoom calls and I'm in my dressing gown.


Hannah Furst:

Yes she does guys. She, I'm so professional, she'll join a team meeting in her pink, fluffy dressing gown. [crosstalk 00:25:28].


Joanna Flemming:

I've got tan on underneath. So I've been doing my tan on a Friday, but in the morning, like 8:00 AM and then I just bare it all day while I'm working and then I wash it off after work.


Hannah Furst:

Multitasking, [crosstalk 00:25:41] the joys of working from home.


Joanna Flemming:

Exactly. I don't know how I'm going to go back to normal life if we ever get to, but this tan smells so good. It is one of the best smelling tans I have ever tried. The Ella Bache one, it comes in pretty close, but it smells so good. And it actually, when I walk into the bathroom, after I've done my tan, I'm like, "Oh, that smells so good". But yeah, it is a great tan, non streaky, gives you the perfect color. It's got a guide color as well, so you know where you've put it and yeah, that's my product for today. Did you have any other comments on it? Cause you use it too.


Hannah Furst:

I do. I use it too. And I always stuff up my hands, but I now use the Coco Honey Vegan, they've got like a, sorry that they've got like a Kabuki brush that you can use with the tan. And I've started using that for face, hands, and feet, and it actually is a game changer for tanning.


Joanna Flemming:

Really? I don't think I have that, but maybe I need to use a Kabuki.


Hannah Furst:

Yeah. So you do it like each finger and each..,then also your face. And it actually makes the tan...it's so much...it's a game changer for tanning.


Joanna Flemming:

I don't use body tan on my face, but yes, I will try that with my hands and feet.


Hannah Furst:

I don't usually, but when I do, I brush that onto my face, brush it onto my hands. Why don't you fake body tan on your face?


Joanna Flemming:

I have had some horrific reactions to tans on my face.


Hannah Furst:

Oh.


Joanna Flemming:

Yeah. So it's, that's a no for me, but it is a great tan. All right.


Hannah Furst:

Well guys, see you next week.


Joanna Flemming:

See you then.


Hannah Furst:

Thanks everyone for joining us today.


Joanna Flemming:

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